The following is an exchange included in a rather longish thread on Energy in Depth–a fracking propaganda website who sends its “field directors” to events such as the direct action shut-down of the Schlumberger Compound in Horseheads, new York, 8.11.12. The original post is written by Frank Maines, the proprietor of the Redwood Inn, Horseheads, New York in response to the anti-fracking protesters that he claims trespassed on his property. The accusation–like much of the thread that follows–is a deeply faulty one. A few protesters did wander momentarily on his lawn (the lawn of a motel), and when asked to leave, did so–promptly and without incident. Maines was then apparently approached by one of the EID “field directors,” and posted a rather hyperbolic account of what transpired calculated, it seems, to bolster the visibility of the motel and to invite particularly fracking industry guests.
You can find that thread here:
Mike Knapp, landman and now VP for Land and Public Relations for the drilling firm, MDS Energy, is a frequent flier on these blogs, and posted the following:
Mike Knapp:
I think I should feel sorry for Wendy Lee after reading her long-winded “I love the sound of my own voice” self-righteous diatribes, but for some reason I always just end up being amused. It’s like arguing with a toddler that INSISTS 1+1=247. She really should have her own reality show. She meets all the prerequisites: delusional, comically over-inflated sense of self-worth, mouth that runs a mile a minute, craves attention like a junkie craves a needle. Perfect for reality television. We could call it “Long Winded Wendy – An Elderly Hippie Tries to Be Relevant”.
Nonetheless, it’s extremely satisfying to see that this is the best that anti’s can come up with. Protests that look like a bongo-drum concert barely lasting long enough to get the whole way through “Kumbaya” and plans to “Frack The Phone Lines” by getting a bunch of people to tie up the phone lines of REAL professors at REAL academic institutions that have REAL degrees that make REAL contributions to society.
Can’t wait to see drilling open up in New York! Hang in there for just a bit longer folks!
Mike Knapp
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I then responded with the following:
Dear Mr. Knapp:
“Elderly hippy”: I’ll make sure to tell the race directors at the Boston Marathon next time I run it. I’m sure they’ll be even more excited about my race times–and this IS a marathon for which one must qualify.
But let’s talk about you, or rather, the company for which you were just proudly appointed VP of Land and Public Relations at MDS Energy, LTD, now MDS Energy Development, LLC. Congratulations, you are no longer a mere landman–you are now a fully-fledged fracker and propagandist.
In 2010 MDS managed to score an impressive number of nasty violations, for which there were a number of fines:
For 2010 -MDS ENERGY had 6 violations and 3 Fines
4/6/2010- MDS ENERGY LTD in Armstrong County- VIOLATION #584594
Code 78.56FRBRD Failure to maintain 2′ freeboard in an impoundment
4/07/2010 Consent Assessment of Civil Penalty Fine: $ 26,000.00
5/14/2010- MDS ENERGY in Armstrong County VIOLATION ID #587171
VIOLATION Code 102.4 Failure to minimize accelerated erosion, implement E&S plan, maintain E&S controls. Failure to stabilize site until total site restoration under OGA Sec 206(c)(d)
Violations noted:
1- Failure to minimize accelerated erosion and sedimentation.
2- Inadequate E&S plan.
3- Discharge of Industrial Waste to the Waters of the Commonwealth.
Culverts not properly stabilized which resulted in sediment entering culverts and eventually entering nearby stream.
Consent Assessment of Civil Penalty FINED $5,000.00 Aug.31, 2010.
5/14/2010 -MDS ENERGY LTD Armstrong County VIOLATION ID #587172
VIOLATION CODE 102.4 INADPLN Failure to minimize accelerated erosion, implement E&S plan, maintain E&S controls. Failure to stabilize site until total site restoration under OGA Sec
5/14/2010 -MDS ENERGY LTD Armstrong County VIOLATION ID #587173
VIOLATION CODE- 401CSL Discharge of Pollution Material into waters of the Commonwealth.
Violations noted:
1- Failure to minimize accelerated erosion and sedimentation.
2- Inadequate E&S plan.
3- Discharge of Industrial Waste to the Waters of the Commonwealth.
5/14/2010 -MDS ENERGY LTD Armstrong County VIOLATION ID #587174
401CSL Stream discharge of IW, includes drill cuttings, oil, brine and/or silt.
Violations noted:
1- Failure to minimize accelerated erosion and sedimentation.
2- Inadequate E&S plan.
3- Discharge of Industrial Waste to the Waters of the Commonwealth.
5/14/2010 MDS ENERGY LTD Armstrong County VIOLATION ID #587175
VIOLATION CODE 691.401WPD Failure to prevent sediment or other pollutant discharge into waters of the Commonwealth.
Violations noted:
1- Failure to minimize accelerated erosion and sedimentation.
2- Inadequate E&S plan.
3- Discharge of Industrial Waste to the Waters of the Commonwealth.
Steady flow of sediment laden water exiting the culvert and entering directly into the stream.
05/24/2010 MDS ENERGY LTD Armstrong County VIOLATION ID #587943 VIOLATION CODE – 78.56FRBRD Failure to maintain 2′ freeboard in an impoundment; freeboard limit exceeded in pit. Water level closer than 2′ from top of pit.
5/24/2010 Consent Assessment of Civil Penalty Fine: $ 26,000.00
8/20/2010 MDS ENERGY LTD Armstrong County VIOLATION ID #598511
VIOLATION CODE 78.60B Tophole water discharged improperly.
Discharge to stream Channel. Violation of 78.60(b)(5)
2008/2009 were also very impressive years for violations for MDS–you must be so proud:
For 2009 MDS ENERGY VIOLATIONS:
6/3/09- MDS ENERGY LTD Armstrong County VIOLATION ID #564197
VIOLATION CODE-102.4 Failure to minimize accelerated erosion, implement E&S plan, maintain E&S controls. Failure to stabilize site until total site restoration under OGA Sec 206(c)(d)
6/3/09- MDS ENERGY LTD Armstrong County VIOLATION ID #564198
VIOLATION CODE 102.4INADPLN E&S Plan not adequate
6/3/09- MDS ENERGY LTD Armstrong County VIOLATION ID #564199
VIOLATION CODE 78.83GRNDWTR Improper casing to protect fresh groundwater
E&S and casing violations
12/30/09- MDS ENERGY LTD Armstrong County VIOLATION ID #579096
VIOLATION CODE 205A Drilling w/in 200 ft of building or water well w/o variance
12/30/09- MDS ENERGY LTD Armstrong County VIOLATION ID #579097
VIOLATION CODE 207B Failure to case and cement to prevent migrations into fresh groundwater
12/30/09- MDS ENERGY LTD Armstrong County VIOLATION ID #579098
VIOLATION CODE 210UNPLUG Failure to plug a well upon abandonment
No bldg. waiver, abandoned & Incorrect casg. & cement
VIOLATIONS for MDS ENERGY in 2008:
1/22/08- MDS ENERGY LTD Armstrong County VIOLATION ID #531304
VIOLATION CODE: 201F Failure to notify DEP, landowner, political subdivision, or coal owner 24 hrs prior to commencement of drilling
2/01/08- MDS ENERGY LTD Armstrong County VIOLATION ID #534649
VIOLATION CODE: 201F Failure to notify DEP, landowner, political subdivision, or coal owner 24 hrs prior to commencement of drilling
4/29/08- MDS ENERGY LTD Armstrong County VIOLATION ID #537870
VIOLATION CODE: 78.56FRBRD Failure to maintain 2′ freeboard in an impoundment
9/11/08- MDS ENERGY LTD Clarion County VIOLATION ID #548244
VIOLATION CODE: 205B Drilling w/in 100 ft of surface water or wetland w/o variance
9/11/08- MDS ENERGY LTD Clarion County VIOLATION ID #548245
VIOLATION CODE: 102.4 Failure to minimize accelerated erosion, implement E&S plan, maintain E&S controls. Failure to stabilize site until total site restoration under OGA Sec 206(c)(d)
9/11/08- MDS ENERGY LTD Clarion County VIOLATION ID #548246
VIOLATION CODE: 102.4INADPLN E&S Plan not adequate
9/11/08- MDS ENERGY LTD Clarion County VIOLATION ID #548247
VIOLATION CODE: 78.56FRBRD Failure to maintain 2′ freeboard in an impoundment
Source: Pennsylvania Department of Environmental Protection and Pennsylvania NPR State Impact.
WOW! The Dep also reports six violations on two wells for 2010–and this is the DEP under Michael Krancer–an agency that make as well be renamed as a public relations firm for the natural gas industry.
Your company is responsible for violating the PA Clean Stream Law, the Discharger of Industrial Waste laws, and the proper well-casings statutes. You’re guilty of improper construction of wastewater impoundments and a variety of permitting violations.
So, here’s my question:
Why would anyone in their right mind even take you seriously with respect to your acquisition of a “deteriorating pipeline system in Indiana County, PA”? What exactly could you claim to “sweat equity” mean given this history of negligence–especially with respect to well-casings?
How deteriorated was this system? How old was it?
How long was it before you put it back in production?
Was it in any way intended for the internal pressure it will now endure?
Are there populations of people nearby?
Indiana is a town with one of the largest state universities in the commonwealth: IUP–approx 18,000 students.
You claim that “[w]hile KAP has managed MDS Energy’s land efforts since 2009, we are excited to officially integrate our efforts into MDS so that we can work even closer to ensure the quality of our work does not suffer as we continue to grow.”
I’ll bet!
With an environmental and health hazard violation record like yours, it’s certainly important the MDS work on it’s PR–that is, its campaign to make sure the public doesn’t know it’s real record.
Perhaps your PR efforts will be as successful in the future as they’ve been in the past, say, your completely foiled (not to mention snarky) endeavor to discredit Josh Fox:
“It was reported recently in the news that a trailer on the land of the family of Josh Fox, (the director of the Oscar nominated film Gasland) was burned. You can read more about the incident here: (Watershed Post and at Record Online)
“The Pennsylvania DEP gave the Fox family a citation for “un-permitted disposal/burning of solid waste”. The fire, however is being investigated by police, and Pennsylvania State Police Fire Marshall Russ Andress stated that the trailer was burned while Fox was on the road and “There’s nothing to suggest either he or his family had anything to do with it”. The fire is still under investigation but that has not stopped the people that are looking to profit from gas drilling in Pennsylvania to wage a media slur campaign to discredit Josh Fox…In addition to the usual snarky campaigns waged on supposed misdeeds of the anti-drilling crowd offered up by Energy In Depth—the gas industry’s biggest buffoonery of misinformation; a newcomer on the scene by the name of Mike Knapp, the sole proprietor of Knapp Acquisitions, (working out out of Armstrong, Butler, Clarion, Indiana and Jefferson Counties in Western Pa) has taken up the mission to add to this flurry of pro-fracking flotsam by discrediting the Fox family on Twitter and on his company website by offering up the following “letter” that spells out the grave hypocrisy that Fox has supposedly perpetrated on us all. Knapp writes the following: (you can download the original here)”
Wow! That’s quite a lot of work to go to to discredit your opposition. Mr. Knapp. There was no evidence at all that Fox or any member of his family had anything to do with the fire you try to burn him with–and you knew it! No wonder MDS is thrilled to have you on-board.
Thing is, it gets even better. Did you see how awesome you come off here?
“Uncertainty remains as landowners band together:
“Aaron Davis has been trying for months to get in on the state’s natural gas boom and turn a profit from his 19 acres of hunting land in Clarion County.
But with such a small plot in a county relatively ignored by scores of drillers descending on Pennsylvania, Davis hasn’t been able to draw the kind of get-rich-quick deals that some others have. He’s hoping that in about a year he’ll at least have a piece of a deal.
Davis, 20, a sheet metal worker from Donegal in Butler County, is planning to sign what its backers call the biggest gas-land deal in Western Pennsylvania.
Officials at MDS Energy Inc. in Kittanning are spearheading a group with about a dozen drilling companies and maybe hundreds of land owners, trying to leverage a package of 500,000 acres into big payouts from a multibillion-dollar auction.
“It’s still a little uncertain, but I’m willing to at least give it a try,” Davis said of the deal scheduled to go to bid next year. “It fits really well (for me) because even though I would only have 20 acres, I’d still be able to join this great big group and get the high rate because I’m in this big group.”
Whether MDS’s agents can get the price they’re suggesting — $8,000 to $12,000 an acre — is far from certain. There are other red flags, said gas industry experts who are following or have been briefed on the deal. The company is offering a 10-year lease and will take a 15 percent cut from a sale, and both are about twice the industry standard, the experts said.
“This is creating a service you don’t need (to lease your land),” said Kent Moors, director of Duquesne University’s Energy Policy Research Group. “And you’ve got no guarantee they’re going to develop your land. You’re preventing yourself from negotiating with everybody for an 18-month period. If their deal goes through, but then they never develop your land, you’re out cold.”
Landowners have been banding together in groups called “compacts” across the gas-rich Marcellus shale region. It is a mile-deep layer of shale rock, stretching underground from New York to Tennessee. Usually they’re farm owners or neighbors trying to strike a leasing deal by banding together with 25,000 or 35,000 acres. They want to profit from leases and production royalties that can come from offering larger packages of land, while protecting themselves in negotiations with big drilling companies.
The MDS group was started by about a dozen small oil-and-gas companies working with Knapp Acquisitions & Production LLC for a way to cash in on their landholdings. Multinational energy companies have paid for three multibillion-dollar deals in the state since December.
MDS controls about 50,000 acres, President Michael Snyder said. With its partners it has about 300,000 combined, mostly in Armstrong, Indiana, Clarion and Jefferson counties. More landowners will lead to a higher premium for every seller, said executives at MDS and Knapp.
“We feel pretty confident and so does our marketing company that we’ll get $8,000 per year if not more,” Snyder said. “We are an ambitious young group, and we are trying to grow the project. Our entire entourage involved in this sale feels the more acreage the better to get a better payout for everybody.”
The deal will be cancelled and landowners will be freed from the agreement within a year if the highest bid is lower than $4,000 per acre, MDS and Knapp said. Royal Bank of Canada is brokering the deal and has agreed to take no commission if the sale goes through at less than $6,000 per acre, they added.
MDS and Knapp have used that claim to advertise the deal. Their agents told a crowd of about 50 at the MDS garage in Kittanning last month that with RBC’s support, the large quantity of land being offered and the recent deals statewide, the sale price could rise to $12,000 or $14,000 an acre.
That high of a price is unlikely, said Anthony Scott, senior energy analyst at Bentek Energy LLC. The land they’re offering is on the fringe of Marcellus development, and drillers may not want to risk the chance it will turn out to be outside the sweet spot.
“You would need a huge amount of information before I would join that group.” said James McCune, a Washington County lawyer who specializes in gas leases. “It might be a good thing, but just saying, ‘We’re big,’ in and of itself, doesn’t carry the day.”
A Royal Bank of Canada spokesman could not be reached. Snyder declined to name his agent at the Toronto-based bank, saying bank officials can’t comment on the deal until they finalize another they’re working on.
Without the bank confirming the details, it’s hard to analyze how good the deal will be for small parcel owners, Moors said. People interested in the deal should be skeptical until they hear from the broker, he added.
Landowners should always consult lawyers with gas industry expertise before signing any lease, Moors and several other industry experts said.”
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In other words, you insert yourself into the middle of deals by promising would-be leasers that they’ll makes oodles more money than is realistic–by a factor of three or four times, and you tacitly discourage these landowners from consulting lawyers. You get them to sign up with you–and then they can’t negotiate a deal through any other representative for a YEAR. Here’s the important stuff:
1. If the actual deal is less than $4,000 per acre, the landowner is still stuck with you for that whole year.
2. But you used the big money claim to promote yourselves as middle-landmen–and to sucker potential property owners (and pressure their rightly skeptical neighbors).
3. But the big money was ALWAYS unlikely since the land was “on the fringe of the Marcellus,” and you knew it.
And all of this was brokered through a CANADIAN bank: ROYAL BANK OF CANADA! So much for waving the flag—at least an American one.
Kent Moor at Dusquesne probably said it best: The landman’s is a service a landowner does NOT need. His offer is for something that may never come to fruition, and if it doesn’t you’ve wasted 12 -18 months waiting for something that’s unlikely to pan out at all.
And it looks like it didn’t–at least for folks in Butler County:
“The game/bs they pulled with us — played dumb and basically said they had to get a surrender of lease from the previous lease we had recorded etc… When I have e-mails asking if they needed such and if so I could get them whatever they needed and have at lease signing and the land man said no as your old lease specifically says it expires dec.31 from the snyder/MDS deal that never materialized. So basically they let our draft expire and said we would have to get another lease signed but Shell is not signing any new leases currently even though we signed ours 7 months ago it was not good do to the surrender of lease just being recorded from the old lease when again the old lease specifically said it was no good as of Dec. 31 last yr. Plus again we asked and told them we could get them what ever they needed but they said we were good and they had the old lease high lighted where it said on Dec. 31 it expires etc… Was told they would be leasing again once more funding was released but who knows when and to what terms etc… Just a shame for everyone that signed and then get the run around and or were told they were to sign and now not accepting any new leases. To sign someone and then to never hold up your end is down right wrong and bad business. When your a huge company the little people you manipulate and bs means nothing unfortunately. Typical corporate bs. They seemed like good honest people and company and some were paid but the ones that they backed out on have a real bad taste and the word is not good from alot of the local land owners who have yet to sign or did and the lease was not honored.”
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Doesn’t make you look good, Mr. Knapp.
Plus, just sticking for the moment with Butler County (A Butler County Republican, Brian Ellis, was a sponsor of unconstitutional ACT 13–and who received $23,000 in gas money donations for his campaign) , it looks like not only did folks not make the big bucks you promised, the destruction to their properties and health has generated opposition to ACT 13 in the form of resolutions–including Butler Township:
“Butler Township supervisors adopted a resolution to support other Pennsylvania communities in challenging Act 13, the Oil and Gas Act, at their meeting Thursday night.
Township resident Marguerite Woelfel addressed the supervisors during their work session earlier in the week regarding Act 13, which she said stripped municipalities’ zoning authority in regard to the oil and gas industries and gagged physicians who may be treating an illness related to industry drilling.
“It’s totally appalling,” she said.
Woelfel asked the township to write a letter or pass a resolution supporting the challenge, because the act allows the oil and gas industry to locate operations within a few hundred feet of homes in a residential district, she said.
“It almost sounds unconstitutional,” Supervisor Brian Kisenwether said.”
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You got that right!
And all this for gas not an iota of which is intended for American customers, but is headed for Cove Point, MD–and then out to the global markets where we can expect to be paying the same inflated prices as the Chinese to buy it back:
This does not seem to square with your website PR, Mr. Knapp:
“Our country is in dire need of a cheap, domestically produced, clean burning and abundant fuel. The key to our energy independence lies right below your very feet, here in Western Pennsylvania.”
There’s a key under your foot, alright, Mr. Knapp, and it’s a golden one. But the reason it’s so golden isn’t because you’ve done a service for your country–far from it. It’s because you’ll be making money off of the sale of gas to the global market–all the while you’re waving the flag.
What a patriot.
Sorry this is so long, Mr. Knapp–but while propagandizing can be done in sound bytes, the undistorted truth takes some time to spell out.
Sincerely,
“Elderly Hippy,” Wendy Lynne Lee
Wendy, I had a hard time editing all those violations. It’s like a match made in heaven for those two…
I guess I shouldn’t be all that surprised. Energy in Depth did not have the guts to post my piece laying out the facts about Mike Knapp in its entirety. On the relevant thread (http://eidmarcellus.org/marcellus-shale/natural-gas-protestors-have-overstayed-their-welcome-at-the-redwood-inn/12112/#comment-6116), they leave out all of the DEP material–the cited violations (including their specific violation registration numbers) and the fines–including the amounts leveled at MDS Energy. It makes it a little easier for Mr. Knapp to try to wriggle out from under the avalanche of negligence, active drilling mud dumps, blatant safety violations, etc. The DEP record speaks for itself: MDS is not only involved in a very dirty business (fracking), it’s a dirty corporate adventure, Mike Knapp the mercenary captain of its public relations smoke screen.
Here’s what Knapp said in response to my decimation of his employer’s credibility:
““Discharging industrial waste” is having some muddy water run off the site in a heavy downpour. Less muddy water than I see running off half the driveways in my neck of the woods after a decent rain. We’ve been fined for having too much fresh water in an impoundment. We were once fined for discharging top hole water into a stream. We had tested the water before discharging onto the ground and it was drinking water quality. But because some of it ran into a dry creek bed we didn’t see and down to a stream…bam, fine. We haven’t had any incidents that have resulted in any pollution being released.
I’m very proud of our record and the guys that work hard every day to get the job done right.
I see youre going with the “throw everything you can at the wall and see what sticks” approach. Not much to throw, and nothing that sticks. Anyone that wants to know the truth about Josh Fox can read all about him on this site. The rest is just the already many times debunked fracktivist talking points. No need to respond to that.”
Here are just a few of the indisputable facts:
MDS is cited for the discharge of Industrial Waste to the Waters of the Commonwealth–at least five different times; failure to notify DEP, landowner, political subdivision, or coal owner 24 hrs prior to commencement of drilling; failure to minimize accelerated erosion and sedimentation; drilling within 100 ft of surface water or wetland w/o variance–and this isn’t the half of it. The DEP makes plain that MDS is responsible for contaminating water ways, and that the company has virtually never had an adequate E&S plan. As a number of property owners make clear, Mike Knapp suckered them into signing contracts with the company under grossly exaggerated and false claims. Indeed, Butler County includes municipalities directly involved in the challenge to ACT 13–overturned as unconstitutional.
I have gutted your company integrity, Mr. Knapp–and EID knows it. That’s why they didn’t post that long list of DEP violations. If this is the safety record you’re proud of, I shudder to think what it would take for you be disappointed. Such is a company that needs a PR guy just like you–one who’s up to the challenge of flatly lying to conceal the facts about its appalling record of environmental exploitation and gross negligence of both safety and exposure to toxins.
Brief update: It is 9:20, 8.20.12, and EID has not yet posted the comment to Mike Knapp’s response (comment 1 on this thread) to the relevant thread at EID–There I also included–again–the list of DEP violations and fines imposed on MDS–Mike Knapp’s company.
Greed is the name of this game. Moratorium Now!
When I look into the faces of people who work for the gas companies, I see eyes like those of the guards of WW2 German concentration camps– “Don’t blame me. I’m only doing my job. I do what I’m paid to do. I don’t need to know the truth. I’m just providing for my family. It’s all about service to my country.”
“You know you’ve got them worried when they can’t stop talking about you”
– Wendy Lee (8/15/2012)
This is what you’re actually reduced to, isn’t it Mike? You guys keep going at me–and at all of the anti-fracking activists. We stand on our conscience…You stand on piles of cash that won’t mean a damn thing to you when it’s you diagnosed with a cancer or a neurological disease or Asthma traceable to exposure to frack toxins. The trouble is that you’re taking so many of the rest of us down with you. Perhaps you thought you could keep your DEP violation and fines record a secret. But you can’t, and folks WILL know what you’re doing to them.
You could get out now and save your conscience, or you can stay and keep making the money…until the bust, that is…or until enough folks call you on your carpet-bagging that your just ineffective at your job. But your gravy train WILL run out, and I’ve got no idea what comes after that for someone like you.
I love to say this Wendy, but you are only one of many ,as you know, that see through the PR by the shale industry. They can lie, distort the truth, and it only makes them look stupid, something they think we, the people, are. Well, they will see how many join you, and they will see that people are a lot smarter than they give them credit for. As far as the things he said about you, I really haven’t seen that side of you. All I have seen is someone that devotes their time to try and fight for clean air and clean water for our children and grandchildren. To me that is who you are, and if others want to join you, you welcome them, because you know this is a fight for all of us that care about our earth. I am with you. Thanks for all you do to save us from an industry run by greed, and complete disregard for the people.
One more thing, Mr. Shepstone has more or less been run out of dodge on Pennlive Forum, kinds of makes me chuckle. No one has fallen for his PR, maybe the industry should get a new mouth piece. Someone that is not so full of themselves.
ID update (please re-post far and wide): after having deleted the entire section of my post gutting Mike Knapp’s MDS Energy Services horrendous DEP record of violations and fines, EID’s Tom Shepstone did (finally) post my follow-up decrying the censorship and manipulation of the EID page, “Gas ‘Tree-Huggers’ Have Overstayed Their Welcome.” But he posted this simply pathetic excuse to try to paper over what is plainly an attempt to prevent readers of that page from knowing the truth about the MDS environmental record:
“Sorry to disappoint you, Tom [Frost], but the only reason we didn’t put it all up the first time is that we’re tired of Wendy and some others trying to fill our pages with full copies of what others have written. We are no longer going to tolerate that and will, instead, insist on the use of links in those cases or references. I actually made an exception in this case simply because people such as you and Wendy would love to be able to say we hid something and we never will do that. We will insist on original material, however, and shorter to the point comments. Yours are always short, thank goodness, although there often never seems to be any actual point.”
My response:
“Translation:
You were finally forced to post it after you were called on the FACT that you don’t want folks to see the appalling series of violations and fines generated by just one small company of your industry. It’s only because you KNOW this information has already been spread far and wide–along with a detailed description of the FACT that you deleted it from my original that you finally conceded. This is nothing but excuse-mongering after the facts, and it bespeaks naught but the attempt to control the content of these pages to insure that the industry can maintain its wholly deceptive and manipulative front.
The facts of these violations and fine speak for themselves, and they speak loudly: Yours is an industry with one objective–profits at virtually any cost so long as YOU make money and others bear the expense.
The fact is you did and DO hide–from the truth. And that truth requires as much or as little space as it does. In Knapp’s case, it requires a LOT of space because the violations are just THAT many.
Hopefully, even the folks reading this blog who might otherwise support fracking will see that your respect for freedom of expression goes only as far as your promotion of your narrow self-interests–that is, not far at all.”
You have been wholly exposed. You have lost. Time to pick up your marbles and go home.
http://eidmarcellus.org/marcellus-shale/natural-gas-protestors-have-overstayed-their-welcome-at-the-redwood-inn/12112/#comment-6134
Funny that you attack our industry with lies, misrepresentations, and purposefully remove context, and you’re outraged when we dare to respond to set the record straight.
You call me a carpetbagger? Do you even know what that means? How can I be a carpetbagger if all of the wells we drill are within 30 miles of the town I was born and raised in? The town where almost everyone that works for us was born and raised in? The town where the family I work for has been drilling wells for 40 years. Over 1,000 of them in this county. If we were taking advantage of folks or causing the destruction of people’s properties in this small town, where word travels fast, we wouldn’t be able to get leases signed and we’d be out of business. But as you can see, that’s far from the case.
So yet again, you’re way off. But keep on keepin’ on. The more false accusations you make, the more inflated hyperbole you perpetrate, the more you erode your position, and the faster NY residents will get their property rights back.
You might want to take a gander here, Mr. Knapp:
https://ragingchickenpress.org/2012/08/20/stream-discharge-drill-cuttings-oil-brine-andor-silt-response-to-mike-knapp-snyder-bros-mds-energy-development-or-best-not-to-call-me-a-junkie/.